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09-15-2008, 06:22 AM
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Nintendo Wii ISO Loader - It's Real!
(Youtube video in replies)
It's time for another exclusive video from TehSkeen. This time our feature presentation is a demonstration of the work in progress Nintendo Wii Backup Loader coded by the infamous and often controversial hacking guru Waninkoko. Yeah, read the first sentence again if you're at a loss for words.
The ISO Loader works like this. You create a legal backup of a game you own, convert the ISO file with a special program then burn it. After this, you copy over the ISO Loader to the Homebrew Channel and run it. It will boot the legal backup. Pretty simple. Oh, and no modchip is required. However, it does require you to have Waninkoko's Custom IOS installed.
This is a unprecedented moment in Nintendo Wii hacking history as is probably going to cause a massive movement in the scene. Too bad Nintendo didn't take Bushing's advice on blocking the method of doing this. Maybe they will now? Of course, this sort of thing isn't condoned by the "general" homebrew scene and when it's released will ultimately lead to some turmoil.
TehSkeen doesn't support piracy. We don't index releases, we don't spread torrents, we don't run contests to dump VC/Wiiware games. Heck, we don't host any tools to inject WAD files with. Waninkoko's motivation for creating the ISO Loader is unknown, but it is illegal and morally wrong to use it for booting illegal copies of games you don't own.
With that all said and done, what do you all think of this milestone in the Nintendo Wii scene? Do you support the project? Do you think it'll force Nintendo to take some sort of action against the "scene"? Oh, please keep out all of the "it's fake" BS in your replies. It's real. Period.
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09-15-2008, 06:24 AM
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09-15-2008, 06:42 AM
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I fully support this idea, I have a dodgy lazer to say the least and I'm sure theres more people out there in my situation. :/
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09-15-2008, 06:53 AM
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Now i can rest easy that my Brawl disk can be backed up, and not ruined by the simplest thing. (though i strongly discourage those planning on abusing this ISO loader)
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09-15-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ADAMAZiD
I fully support this idea, I have a dodgy lazer to say the least and I'm sure theres more people out there in my situation. :/
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That doesn't fit at this point in time due to the fact you still have to use your Wii's DVD-ROM drive to boot the burnt backups with.
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09-15-2008, 06:58 AM
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I hate this Waninkoko is always creating pirate enabled software.
Bleh!!! I hope its fake.
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09-15-2008, 07:07 AM
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This is great. I can't even bother to try and play anything other than legal backups since I'm on dial-up. Others will certainly abuse it, of course, but that's their choice.
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09-15-2008, 07:07 AM
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This is awesome, cant wait till its out!
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09-15-2008, 07:13 AM
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Bad progress, there have been more than enough ways to use illegal copies on the Wii - Modchips are really cheap. Hope Waninkoko fails to release a working version of the iso loader.
I fear bushing and other members of Team Twizzers might give up their hard work due to this release - their work was the real driving force behind Wii homebrew.
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09-15-2008, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinsil
I hate this Waninkoko is always creating pirate enabled software.
Bleh!!! I hope its fake.
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Did you even read the topic post? It IS real.
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09-15-2008, 07:47 AM
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I love this ISO loader. Wait... No, this isn't an ISO loader, right? It loads backups, but it loads them from DVD... as burnt image, it doesn't read the ISO-file.
I understand why someone would be against this sort of thing, but piracy won't hurt Nintendo thát much, and it was bound to happen anyways. I will use this to run backups of the games I bought. I'm currently backing up Super Mario Galaxy to my PC, I hope the patcher will be available soon so I can burn it 
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09-15-2008, 08:54 AM
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Why in the menu there is no music, but in the game there are?
(I am french, I used Google Translator :P)
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09-15-2008, 09:13 AM
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Nice!
Maybe time to install the new custom ios in preparation. 
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09-15-2008, 09:27 AM
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This is great news, all you people complaining about it being abused, get over it! There is nothing at all bad about this. Sometimes I wonder how most of the peope who acually do complain about this are just doing it because they think the MIB are going to come break down their door if they load a backup on their Wii; etc. I guarantee there is not one person who is complaining about this who hasn't in someway or another broken their "laws" for whatever corporation you claim to live under whether it be the US or what have you.
support the scene! Maybe we can eventully get a full blown linux distro runnin on this bad boy sooner!
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09-15-2008, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinsil
I hate this Waninkoko is always creating pirate enabled software.
Bleh!!! I hope its fake.
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PIRATE ENABLED SOFTWARE ? Please explain to me what led you to believe this software is "pirate enabled" and also explain to me what is so bad about piracy if it is the case?
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09-15-2008, 09:30 AM
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I have no problem with it. Hopefully with more widespread piracy, the crap third-party games will die. That's why I installed a chip on my wii. I got burned a few times buying what I thought would be a great game, only to find out it was coded by a drunken baby was a game I played YEARS ago and they threw in simple "Look, you can wave your arms around like you're having a seizure and if you're lucky your character may do what you were wanting" and charged full price for it. (I'm looking at you "Prince of Persia") Since then, I've pirated EVERY game I thought I may be interested in, and if I like it, I buy it. I have a copy of SSBB sitting right next to me that was a result of that philosophy. However, other games were quickly introduced to the round-file and I only lost $.50 instead of $20-$50. So I say, bring on the piracy. When the crap doesn't sell, maybe they'll stop making it. Of course, that hasn't stopped the "(random genre here) movie" guys or Uwe Boll. SO I guess time'll tell.
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09-15-2008, 09:31 AM
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With the last release of libDI and DVD video mode exploit from twiizers, it was only a matter of time before someone with enough knowledge in IOS patching and DVD encryption just put all pieces together and release something like that... also, no surprise that waninkoko is behind that again, he has already proven that he was smart enough in "putting pieces together" to release "borderline" tools.
But this time, he deliberately crossed the line between hacking and piracy as I don't really see any use for this other than for pirating games
Well, he will be a hero for many people but will probably also lose all respectability (if he still had) from the "clean side" of the wii scene 
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09-15-2008, 09:35 AM
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He just is sharing his creation, now what you do with it is your own responsibility. Hacking is modifying somethin in a way to do something it wasn't originally intended to do. I do believe this iso loader is a hack. Now depending on what YOU choose to do with it, is up to you. I don't quite comprehend how exploiting a glitch in Zelda to hack into the system is any different, this opened the door in the first place for all of this, so don't make it look so bad :-p
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09-15-2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ghrayfahx
I have no problem with it. Hopefully with more widespread piracy, the crap third-party games will die. That's why I installed a chip on my wii. I got burned a few times buying what I thought would be a great game, only to find out it was coded by a drunken baby was a game I played YEARS ago and they threw in simple "Look, you can wave your arms around like you're having a seizure and if you're lucky your character may do what you were wanting" and charged full price for it. (I'm looking at you "Prince of Persia") Since then, I've pirated EVERY game I thought I may be interested in, and if I like it, I buy it. I have a copy of SSBB sitting right next to me that was a result of that philosophy. However, other games were quickly introduced to the round-file and I only lost $.50 instead of $20-$50. So I say, bring on the piracy. When the crap doesn't sell, maybe they'll stop making it. Of course, that hasn't stopped the "(random genre here) movie" guys or Uwe Boll. SO I guess time'll tell.
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Great way to sum it all up, I agree with you 110% :-D
Hell, I'd love a way to plug my 1TB USB HDD up to my Wii so I can load all my games from it, instead of wear-and-tear on my precious discs hehe.
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09-15-2008, 09:48 AM
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I would like to see what nintendo are going to do about this.
They dont seam to care to much about security nintendo. Or maby they do...
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09-15-2008, 09:52 AM
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Is there any possibility of this also working with gamecube discs?
Nonetheless, I'm impressed that waninkoko actually figured out how to do it in the end...
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09-15-2008, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by eke-eke
With the last release of libDI and DVD video mode exploit from twiizers, it was only a matter of time before someone with enough knowledge in IOS patching and DVD encryption just put all pieces together and release something like that... also, no surprise that waninkoko is behind that again, he has already proven that he was smart enough in "putting pieces together" to release "borderline" tools.
But this time, he deliberately crossed the line between hacking and piracy as I don't really see any use for this other than for pirating games
Well, he will be a hero for many people but will probably also lose all respectability (if he still had) from the "clean side" of the wii scene 
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I see this as a way to backup my legally bought games. If you don't believe it, that's fine, but I'd like to backup my own games so the discs don't get scratched. It happened to me before...
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09-15-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanuku
Is there any possibility of this also working with gamecube discs?
Nonetheless, I'm impressed that waninkoko actually figured out how to do it in the end...
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I too am curious about the ability of GC clones, but i'm sure in due time this thing will be perfected :-p
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09-16-2008, 12:26 AM
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To reply to all of the "oh no this will cause piracy" shit, including certain webmasters and high up scene members. Shut the hell up. I don't see whining when these webmasters post news about flashcards, or talk about mod chips. TehSkeen and I personally don't support piracy. It seems like people are forgetting about the PSP exploit - no one was going around crying about it. No one goes crying around when a modchip is released. Sure, this is a bit easier, but people Bushing warned Nintendo about it. They will probably do something about it. It was only a matter of time. I'm not defending piracy at all, but we have tools on this site and the other webmasters have tools on their sites that could be used for piracy or used legally. Again, to the fucking whack job scene site owners - shut the hell up.
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09-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by brakken
...shut the hell up.
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Hear hear! This man speaks the truth!
Also, any news on if it'll play 'Cube games yet?
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09-16-2008, 12:53 AM
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DVD-RW for the win!
Now I can bring my Smash bros Japanese voice hack to my friends house without taking the whole Wii.
Will this support DVD-RWs? I know the WiiKey does.
(yes, I do own the game)
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09-16-2008, 12:53 AM
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Brakken, I respect your point of view, but I also respect the other point of view that the people I think you are kinda refering to but not wanting to name.
Some people want to donate their time and effort to coding for the wii for homebrew, but don't want their work to support piracy. Even though its impossible to release things that take a step forward in homebrew without indirectly helping piracy, they did release a lot of info, and without some of those people, I believe that we wouldn't be this far today in the Wii homebrew/hacking scene.
To tell them to shut the hell up, when they have spent time developing stuff that the entire scene is based on for the most part, is kinda harsh.
I do agree that the people who haven't done any work should shutup, and yes, that includes me.
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09-16-2008, 01:00 AM
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Is this defenitely going to be released to the public?
Is it a final build, if it is being released is there any time frame about its release?
We could be getting ahead of ourselves here!
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09-16-2008, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dantarion
Brakken, I respect your point of view, but I also respect the other point of view that the people I think you are kinda refering to but not wanting to name.
Some people want to donate their time and effort to coding for the wii for homebrew, but don't want their work to support piracy. Even though its impossible to release things that take a step forward in homebrew without indirectly helping piracy, they did release a lot of info, and without some of those people, I believe that we wouldn't be this far today in the Wii homebrew/hacking scene.
To tell them to shut the hell up, when they have spent time developing stuff that the entire scene is based on for the most part, is kinda harsh.
I do agree that the people who haven't done any work should shutup, and yes, that includes me.
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Harsh responses are required for hash words. Wraggster, who posted his rant about how just posting a video of this "hurts" the scene and how Nintendo might go after news sites. Lol, Wraggster has been on my ass ever since I posted on brakken.net about him. His motives are not to help the homebrew scene at all, just to talk shit about me without the curage to name names. Yet, he posts about flashcards, the dvdx which helped create this loader and tons of other tools that can be used for piracy. At the end of the day it's the end user who is repsonsible for what they do with their stuff. Like I clearly stated, I don't condone piracy.
Where's the bitching about the emulators?
Where's the bitching about the modchips?
Where's the bitching about the exploits?
Where's the bitching about the tools?
I could go on and on .... The only people I'm telling to shut the hell up are the people that know better and are using this turmoil (which I predicted) to smite me. Others (like eke-eke) who aren't trying to indirectly talk shit about me or TehSkeen can ramble on. It's not like anyone is going to listen to me to begin with. If so they would of taken the original article I wrote and realized I'm not about pirating games.
All in all it's just a video. It's not like I released the loader. I won't release it.
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09-16-2008, 01:06 AM
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Well this is my first post so I want to make it count. I would really like this software. I have 3 girles 2, 3, and 5 I have spent 500.00 or more on my wii all of it original. My girls have ruined three of my games; lego star wars, mario kart, and just today smackdown vs raw. Each girl whants to play there own game and dispite what I tell them never put the game in the case when done or when they switch games. This software would allow me to kept my originals in a safe place and let the girls play with the back up. This software is no different then anything else in the world, bad people will allways miss use things that good people would use responsably.
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